How damaging is news that Roger Stone may have actually dined with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange? Dan joined Chris Hayes Wednesday night on MSNBC to discuss this. Here is some of Dan’s assessment.

WHY IT MATTERS 

“In essence to understand this, it’s Mueller is clearly trying to determine whether or whether not Russian intelligence connected to WikiLeaks, connected to the Trump campaign and maybe is it to the president himself. That’s the context of this. And Roger Stone who is a very smart fellow…. But that Shakespeare line comes to mind, oh what, a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive. And he considers himself a master deceiver… He’s never met a decipherer of deception of Mueller’s category and sooner or later, it may be later, we will know. “

WHAT DID TRUMP KNOW

“President Trump mentioned WikiLeaks 116 times during the month of October just before the campaign. That would indicate to any reasonable person that perhaps he had been talking to Stone or did indeed know what Stone was doing. It’s not a conclusion. I think it’s a reasonable theory based on the evidence.”

WHY THIS SHOULD WORRY TRUMP

 “This increases the fear of President Trump. You have to know that the fear is on the rise because he sees and hears what we have and he knew it a long time ago and he’s got to be saying to himself, listen if they’re pressing in on Roger Stone and they’re going to get him if they haven’t already under oath, I’ve really got to be afraid.”

Watch the interview here.